I would like to hear everyones opinion on Manny's ducking of the doping tests

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Permalink Reply by foripu on December 28, 2009 at 2:13pm

if u have nothing to hide by all means take the test! refusing just leaves room for rumors, which could be pre fight hype. if you that worried about them taking youre blood and making u weak, store your own blood. besides its not like thier taking pints at a time.

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Permalink Reply by Alejandro Rodriguez on December 28, 2009 at 2:17pm

exactly, somethings fishy, when this crap started what first came to my mind was HBO commentator comments on Manny at the Cotto weigh in, when they said Manny grew 1 inch in stature and almost 2 in reach, kinda weird that a 30 year old man grows like that all of a sudden, and when they were both in the ring there was barely any difference in size between the 2, unlike PBF vs JMM where Floyd looked huge, those things give u some thought dont they.

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Permalink Reply by foripu on December 28, 2009 at 5:54pm

word up, there was a size difference with him and cotto but, i thought it would be bigger. i saw cotto in person here in tampa at 157 and he was small so pacman shouldve been a shrimp. the only he could get and extra inch on his reach would be gaining weight on his hands

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Permalink Reply by Alejandro Rodriguez on December 28, 2009 at 7:12pm

157? damn he didnt seem that heavy to me lol, i'm 5'10 and 140, i talked to him one week before he left for Tampa and he had around the same build as me, considering he's "5'7" (i think he's almost 5'9 cause i was barely a little taller than him, my best friend is 5'6 1/2 and even with high heels she doesnt reach me lol) i thought he was around 146-147 already, although he must have incredible power cause when i shook his hand i noticed he has very little hands for a boxer.

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Permalink Reply by foripu on January 4, 2010 at 11:43am

they have scales at fight factory, what man in his right mind would come here and not enjoy himself? that also might be the reason he lost.

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Permalink Reply by Colombian Slugger on January 8, 2010 at 2:16pm

According to Chic Pierce of ESPN Conversations

Ok here's the business, Micheal Moorer who was working for the Pacman camp tipped off Mayweather's about Pac's alleged PED use, which is why Mayweather insists on the tests up til fight time. Moorer claims that during training he saw and had knowledge of the trainers cooking up magic juice for Pac, as his questions persisted he was terminated from the camp and no longer part of Team Pacquiao. He then let Mayweather and their camp know about what he knew, which is why they are adament about the tests. Now, if Manny doesn't want to to take the tests and I have a former Heavyweight champion and cornerman from Team Manny telling me this happened, why would I not logically assume that he is ducking the test because he's dirty. Bob Arum, Freddie Roach, Ariza, and Pac all know the deal and why it's this way...which is why now the reason for declining the random testing has went from superstition, to fear of needles, to weakening the body, to now principle. Believe what you want but Mayweather will not concede on this aspect of the negotiations because he does in fact believe Pac is dirty. That being said, this lawsuit filed by Pac's people is going to backfire in a huge way because it's going to bring all these things to the forefront, they should have agreed...shut up, and took the fight. Pac and his people should be ashamed, this is a pitiful day for boxing. Manny has certainly cast a shadow of doubt

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Permalink Reply by Alejandro Rodriguez on January 8, 2010 at 7:11pm

hmmm i didnt know about this, but i too was wondering why Moorer wasnt there, my mom was the one that noticed him missing in the Pac/Cotto 24/7, i remembered she asked me "hey where the black guy who helped Roach in training Pacquiao?" and on an episode they talked about it and Roach said they didnt coincide in training methods, i for one didnt buy that statement since they have trained him together before, so why change training methods from Moorers part all of a sudden thats ridiculous, and like i said before, Manny's height and reach growth for the Cotto fight just isnt normal period.

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Permalink Reply by foripu on January 11, 2010 at 11:05am

1. u r lucky to have a mother that pays that much attention to boxing

2. pacman is dirty, there is no other excuse. a person who has nothing to hide would submit to every test they throw at him.

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Permalink Reply by anthony mike mullen on January 28, 2010 at 4:40pm

Lbflb Manny is the best them all. Duran, Peak Jones, 1980s Iron Mike. Note as a lad first fight I seen of Duran in 1980. Floyd never wanted 2 fight Manny. He gets shots in his hands that is 100% sure not sure on manny. Huh?

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Permalink Reply by ant calzaghe on February 15, 2010 at 4:40pm

I think it all seems a bit dodgy and now personally have doubts on the pacman.....will be interesting to see how Khan develops under roach...

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